第五十二节 安之若素(二)(1 / 2)
重生足球之巅
我倔我自豪
1056 字
2022-09-19
能不能成为指导思想,只有王艾自己有数。王斌虽然接触了很多高层,日常也经常接触知识界,但知识界自己也打的昏天黑地,所以他只能报以谨慎态度。
“那落后产能怎么办呢?淘汰是中央决策,可你又说无法全部转移?”
“就地升级呗。”王艾释然道:“所谓落后产能实际上分为三种,第一种是高污染的。老百姓有怨言,环境有危害,这个治理起来投资可就大了。那些被污染的早晚都得治理,就像北京的雾霾。这个成本原本由社会和国家承担,将来就要企业自己承担了。可全球化是各地政策不同,所以要么升级要么走。而我们这种大规模的,除了升级没有别的路。”
王斌点点头:“家里有614造纸机是零排水,再有三年左右能实现100。只要我们不再排放污水,就没人说我们是污染企业。”
“第二种是高耗能的,这个,欧洲那帮人嘴上唱高调,一个劲给我们施加压力,我们没法视而不见,就得做点什么,但还不能上当。”
“环境税是吗?”
“可不?他们自己完成了工业化,然后就设置高门槛不让别人进,你进来也行,你得给他交租子。”
“高耗能意味着多烧煤,这就和污染挂钩了,听说南方光伏产业发展很快,这个将来能取代烧煤吗?或者天然气?”
“不好说,但眼下估计不能,光伏产业有些技术刚突破,成本太高,像我们这种还用不起。天然气这东西虽然污染不高,但我们本土产能不够,这又涉及到一个淘汰高耗能产业的潜在理由,就是我们的原油太受制于人了。不管是中东还是俄罗斯,总是不保靠。”王艾看着老爹:“你说我们新中国就因为发展潜力大,所以多次受到封锁,更早一点说我们党在陕北的时候不就吃过封锁的苦吗?所以,肯定的,这根弦一直是绷着的。”
王斌这一次思索了很久才叹息一声:“我们东北的环境太恶劣了,本来黑龙江那边水资源丰富,但冬天就结冰了,水电站干瞪眼。光伏看着好,可我们冬天总下雪,真要供应我们一个生产基地,那还得安排人专门扫雪,而且那东西在我们的剧烈温差下,肯定寿命不行,这成本又上来了。还有运输,丢了黑龙江出海口东北就是个大内陆,远不如四川。怪不得都往南方跑呢,发展工业条件是真好。”
王艾心有戚戚然的点头:“老毛子那边还总防着我们,海参崴也不让痛快的用。对了,珲春那边还行吧?”
“嗯,我们是俄罗斯的大买家,韩国日本那边需求也旺盛,所以我们三边方一起做工作,那边允许我们的车队直接开到图们江出海口上船,但我们是特例,还不知道国家层面什么时候能解决。”王斌感慨的道:“其实老毛子没必要防着我们,我们自己人都在往南方跑,谁去西伯利亚啊。老毛子瘦得皮包骨,还非要撑个架子。当年就是为了吞并东北所以才强行封死了东北的两个出海口,如今这个战略计划永远不存在了,何必呢。”
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